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what a bunch of Plonkers, hilarious defending from Terry an co. Unlucky not to get a 2nd goal but in the end it didn't matter.

Ridiculous that goal wasn't given.

Still, it gives the English something to complain about for the next 24 years.

A gross injustice, no doubt. But England just collapsed after that.

For this so-called "Golden Generation" (which is massively overrated anyway) it's most likely curtains. Like Australia, England face a generational change after 2010, and maybe for the better in this case.

1. We'd have won the World Cup if that goal was given.

2. That goal would have been given if Milner wasn't playing, anti-Leeds conspiracy!

So to apply your logic, there was the same conspiracy against Australia too?

No we like Milner.

Surely Football needs to stop being the laughing stock of world sport and get with technology????? Even Hockey uses video technology

They didnt collapse mate they were chasing the game maybe a little bit naively by over committing. It was just a huge decision to get wrong.

Id prefer not to have video technology, yes it hurts, yes its shit, but at the end of the day thats why we love football. Sometimes they're wrong and you just have to cop it.

Nah sports around the world have gone with technology. How can you argue with correct decisions? And it puts some pressure on referees, to get decisions right... especially the red card type. Look at the way cricket has embraced it. I was anti video technology with cricket but now love it, and we know more often than not we get the correct decision............unlike previous tours in the sub-continent.

we dont need video technology. it would kill the free flowing game that we love. referees have always made mistakes, thats what makes our game so great.
to recktify goal line decisions, assistant referees that sit on the goal line and only flag decisions about close goals like the one we are talkimg about and infringments in the box.
they did it in the europa league, needs to be applied to all games.

the first thing they need to do is improve referee selection for international tournaments.

And that experiment failed miserably.

How can anyone argue against the correct decision being made?

In this case: did the ball cross the line? The answer is yes.

Sure there are lots of grey areas and interpretation, but why not be correct when you can be in a tournament of this scale?

Sitting on the other side of the world in the middle of the night I saw immediately that it was a goal. The fact that 2 men missed, thus it didn't happen is outright farked.

I don't get the resistance.

Yeah, there are issues of fact and issues of interpretation. Whether the ball crossed the goal line or not is an issue of fact, and whether a player got fouled or his shirt pulled is an issue of interpretation. I have not problems using whatever means necessary to determine limited issues of fact, providing those decisions made using technology don't interfere with the referees control of the game.

How about they introduce a challenge system- each manager has two challenges for the game. Can be used for cards, penalties, goals but the manager must request it.

Giving the refs a chance to go to the video everytime is a recipe for disaster. Giving the responsibility back to the teams is the answer.

Love that system in the NFL, adds a lot of excitement too!

It does make it interesting being on the edge of your seat waiting for the call.
Like the tennis....not sure how accurate birds eye is, but having video referee for the goals are a definite IMO

The answer is that FIFA value having the SAME rules and SAME conditions and SAME game from amateurs to pros, from kids to adults.

They think the fact that kids in africa play by IDENTICAL rules to the WC final is more worth the odd incorrect decision.

I played junior Rugby League, we weren't stood around constantly lamenting the lack of a video referee for the Clayton under 15s games.

heh,

look, I'm not defending FIFA, I'm just explaining that their decision is not one based around 'we want the wrong decisions made' - its based around having identical structures from ground up.

The advocates for Video refs therefore have to argue with that point, because, it actually is valid (whether or not you agree).

Exception being that a large number of grassroots games are played without linesmen...

Well im sure thats not a FIFA directive